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Episode 1 · 2 years ago

#1 Our Diving Days

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Hi and welcome to our first episode, today we will be talking about our experience going through the process of learning to scuba dive, from our first ever dive, all the way up to our rescue diving course...so, I've got a question for you

Hello, welcome to our new podcast. My name is Max and I need joining my two great friends. I'm done. I'm China. We are marine biologyst students currently in a second year University of whole. Well, loving that course, be honest. Like, yeah, greatest decision ever. Honestly, we like, I got podcast coming on that, by the way. Yes, we, we, we have a few ideas already made and we just get whatever. Okay, in this episode we will thinking about the starting something of its more simple, like scuba diving, for example. NOTHINK, but that's not very simple. Simple, no, but it's a topic that I what this podcast is going to be about eventually. Yeah, yeah, anyway, the name of my podcast is nature lab, and what we want to cover on this is anything and everything about nature and the sciences around it, especially topics what we love but love ourselves or find controversial or just practically really interesting. Anyway, or if everybody listens to this and you've got any ideas of what you want to talk about, we don't mind doing some research and then talking about that. Oh God, no, like, we love it. We'll love to like find something there such a giant nerd. Yeah, yeah, she's the academic one. Yeah, but yeah, join our course, especially in our first year. A lot of it we actually got the opportunity to learn to scuba dive. Well, ME and China, I've had a little bit of experience before, going to uniqu to Scooba it. Dove Dan has been a different way. Yeah, little bit free, Diwman, like just don't hold it, stuff like that. But yeah, really, I didn't barely knew what scoupid I was before. Again, you heard about it. I was like, my God, I need to do this. Yes, but we all loved it. We had a few ups, we had a few downs. Yeah, don't start. Yeah, yeah, anyway, we just want to talk about our experience of going through the process and the steps of learning to scuba dive first, since something we've all experienced together. We all went for it as a group and were pretty confident with it. Now we are now. Yeah, it's definitely will let meet me go to a rescue like. That's good enough for me. It's definitely a difficult thing. Yeah, we all know that. There's a lot of personal barriers you've got to overcome. Oh God, Oh, yeah, definitely, so glad that we got through it. Now let's dive into this episode. Funny, gay go, I know. And guys, I've got a question for you. Okay, when you were first learned to scuba dive, what challenge is challenges did you have to overcome and face? For me, it was a lot of confidence, because obviously I've only ever done free down and not like you too, or you guys have, like you do, held it freaking snorke before. No, I haven't. All I've done is just go down diving, you shorts, and just hold hold your breath for as long as you can get. So when they gave me this regulator and all this kid and everything, I had no idea what was doing. So, like I had to do my Vun Sop and war dive, like close water dive, twice, because I think you just have enough day, you know, just even from like getting in, when I did the step off, you do like a step off into a platform, and so someone swam on the me as I was about to step off and then I should it. I was like, I can't do this now, and now I'm shaking and overthinking it and everything like, because obviously when you step off you've got to make sure you back doesn't hit like the platform. When you step off, you've got to take like a big straight it's called the giants dride into yeah, that's it, a giant stride. And I was overthinking you so much that as soon as I stepped off, my tank was going to hit the back and I was like, Oh my God, I can't do this, can't do this, and I managed to do it, got in and just didn't infleet. I am I not find people that don't know when you die and kid you've got BCD and that's like your infleet. So it's like a big bubble it. Imagine kind of like a big vest and like a sleeveless heads. Essentially, it's basically like a hardest for rest of you get best. Yeah, you're like an air mattress, but you wear it. Yeah, that's image of you wearing a mattress. So it will be just to save like you know, yeah, effort when you surf the water. We've Wad. I didn't do that. ICH and this I'm already in open water diver. I just had a really bad day. I've got it and I don't like kicking and I'm think, wow, I stay not everybody's staying up and then the instruments of pulled me up and she just literally like you know when you pick a dog off and you're like well, by like scrubb yeah, and it was like it's like inflight. Oh my God, I had totally like ten minutes and then I went and then when we went down, burn...

...around. It's like a three meet pool. Yeah, sure, is nothing and I'm already done the I's just a month support sessions. Yeah, this is a pool sessions. Yeah, and for the advanced. Yeah, so basically, when we learn it to die, we had to go through open water goth and straight after hasn't downed for open water. The basically kind of the same. But the advanced when you just learned a bit more techniques and things like that and Ching fine tuning. Yeah, basically. Yeah, and we started in pulls of an originally. Notice, get used the gear, get used to breathe a underwater I thing some of the stuff we had to do was always it at to clean out mask, clear, mask clearing, partial and full. Yeah, while still under water as well. See, that's where you take it. If to take your mask off, if you like me, you can't have your eyes up in the way you gotta Close Your Eyes to feel for where your mask is. You got to find it, bring up to your face, then pull the strap over your head, which, when your hair is in Platz, is very difficult to do, by the way. Oh, yes, especially under water as well. Yeah, you want see. Yeah, or if you like me, you've got a hold to nose. Yeah, this man over here cannot equalize, but we'll get into that ever. But yeah, so once you put the strupple your head, you put it to the mass. Would usually sit here like yeah, that's fine, but they going to get rid of all the water in your mass. So what you do is you either what I used to do was like press the top of that the Jay. That was part press. Yeah, so you press that down and it opens a little gap underneath. It's like an air pocket. So you raise your head backwards, or you press it down and you inhale and then you exhale for your nose blind or the water out. It's sounds what harder than it actually is. Yeah, if you're struggling with it, though, it's it's just a deep breath out. You know, it's really yeah, but if you're strong with it and you're pressing and you're breathing. Just lift your help, because I know I did that. Yeah, like laughs. A lot of it was coughed. The more you lift ahead, the easier it is, because the bulls just travel straight out. And well, yes, as well, if you're down, what was just going to go. Yeah, yeah, another thing is well, like I said of the beginning, me and China are they had a little bit experience before. And China, where did you work? A Lonne to die? So I got given a birthday present for eightioth birthday and I got to go diving in an aquarium I did my work experience in. So I did my work experience at skegness aquarium. Shout out to nudge the sever shark, my little favorite fellow over there, and I went swimming with him and and it was the best day of my life. I got that excited. Afterwards I was in my full kit, full weights, and I actually just flung the doors open to the diving thing and I just jumped on my mom and like I nearly pushed her over because I was so excited, and then I couldn't stop talking and I remember coming home and for like the next two weeks I was just ranting and going absolutely crazy about how I got to cuddler's ever shark and how I was, you know, find the going scuba diving and I just I had to come to Uni and do it, like I couldn't have not. So you're very first time diving. You ended up diving with your very favorite shark species. Yes, I did, my favorite little separate shark fellow. Yes, wonderful. He's very cuddly and he's the sweetest thing I think I've ever met my life. Point did it become difficult for you diving if you enjoying that so much? So, I enjoyed that one so much. I think I put a lot of pressure on myself when I went diving. So because of the fact that I've always wanted to do marine biology and I've always wanted to go diving with sharks and everything, the fact that I just completely went straight from being excited about it to academic brain going, oh no, this is something you have to do, like you need to do this. Yeah, you were scared failure. I was scared. I was absolutely terrified. I ended up doing the first couple of skills and everything perfectly fine. I didn't I didn't really have any issues with the skills themselves. It was just getting over my own head. That was the hard part and it was kind of realizing that I could actually do it, and it took a lot of confidence. It took a lot of you tube telling me I could do it. I remember getting out of pool quite a few times being like Oh, I didn't do this, and and you too were just kind of stood there like shut up, you did it, you fine, get on real life. Yeah, a lot of that help. Really it's really good when you go in with people that know you and the support that you guys were there, even if it was just to tell me to shut up and get on with it, it was really helping. Sometimes that's all you need. There is. Yeah, it really is, especially with diving, because you can get in your head so much. Yeah, I like when I first started diving, a lot of it was a mental challenge, as in, like, I know I can do this, why aren't I breathing? Yeah, like I number as well. Like my first ever time diving, I actually do it back in my hometown, Shearefield, and I was with Bezac at the time, not weary paddy at the minute, but I was back with bees AC. They were lovely. I absolutely loved it. I did it with my cousin me and my cousin molly. We learn to die together and obviously we went for the whole process. We deal pull sessions. So I when I came to uni and did the pool sessions again, I already knew a lot of what was going into as I said to these guys, and there's a few odd things I didn't...

...know. A few things I did with bees. That was a bit different paddy, but not in major and it came to my first time to go open water diving and I went with an instructor from Bezac just before went to uni for having was just just before the last summer and we went to place called Stony cove and it was an amazing like the visibility. It was really fun. It is my first time in Okah war it were called us. It wasn't bad to what we like. Yeah, we get compared to the lagoon like it was. It was really fun. Like we didn't do much of an assessment. Is more more of a joy dive and I struggled a little bit of stuff. We did a bit of assessments. Actually, what happened? I got too funny things. What happened? One, if you have to when your dieting, you have to wear a weight belt, like so you don't just shoot up and depend on how deep you I can be quite dangerous. We just shoot up and we only went to buy like eight to ten meters there and one of the things we had to do was we're to take our weight belt off on the water then put it back on while you under war. As a fair enough like leaned on my stomach, if you can lean under water, like yeah, you kind of just yeah, yeah, I pivoted down to my stomach and I had it on my back and I was tying it up. I did it fine, but I left it a little bit too loose and then one of the ways slipped off and we we didn't realize for the rest of the day because I was like, but you're swimming like logs. Yeah, I was absolutely like yeah, that's like God, I don't just readdressed myself to readress myself on the trying to read just myself from the war. It was fine and rest the day was fine and we pulled to heads up and we was like why am I pivot? She looked like my actually massing away and it's like a crap. It's in a way here. But and then, like we said, we'll try to find it after because you know, it's not a property. Was the stort of coast property, and we said time and find it afterwards. And imagine trying to find a square bit of metal looks just like a rock and the same color in a quarry. It's a bit hard. Long story show. We never found it. Didn't have a happy ending. But another thing was doing was we'll swimming back and one of the things I get to check. You would love this. It was a helicopter like wreck and it was missing the the bottom half, or like the real end, yeah, the tail and the propellers, but you could look inside and it was like an artificial reef. It was really fun, really cool. Dan is a he really wants to go breck dive and that's kind of his thing, but I'm like, Nope, yeah, I want to go photography Diavon. Yeah, well, I want to do but yeah, we're doing looking around this wreck and everything was we had perch and Roach. I really wanted to see a pike. I didn't get to see it and like, I look behind me, at this wreck and it just a couple of roaches five minutes lay. Look behind it, there's a whole school of them just following this. This following is on our trail. I was one with the fish. Finally, ten minutes later, I'm like and on, I can't swim properly. I look down. Guess what's on the bottom? You Fin, my fins laying on the bottom of the quarry. And then like, HMM, that's supposed so, like I went down and I got it and I'm just like, imagine trying to swim on the war with all that gear on, with won form like and the gear is pretty heavy. You can imagine you carrying a cylinder on your back filled with oxygen. It's a pretty hefew thing, isn't it, even underwater? Yeah, it's quite heavy and but we managed to get it. I actually passed that died. Yeah, it was quite good. We didn't got my second eve because versions fresh as and I didn't have a car anymore and I went to uni and it was this bit like Meth, bit of a mess. So as all right, I'll do it uni instead. And Yeah, that's how we all started diving. Really. Yeah, yeah, so what did you have to when you started, because what did I have to overcome? Well, if we fast forward into when we were doing our dives in the upper water, yeah, like I was confident. At my first upen water. We went to place called Blue Lagoon. will part of a Bove and a blow. Yeah, anyway, we want to past go bluegoon. It was run by these people. There was an augue bloom during it. So the Blue Lagloon was green, it was not blooming, and imagine trying to dive in and argue bloom. It was why you can't see your little finger if you okay, five, sevent meters from yeah, okay, all right, listeners out there, put your hand and in front of your face, I like a centimeter or something. It's or so apart from your nose. That was the visibility. We had to learn...

...it. Yeah, and it was hectic to say that this one word for it. Yeah, but it was good in terms of we want any condition. Yeah, I was gonna. One of the instructors was like, if you can die here, you can die anywhere, which I kind of was glad that I did it at the end of it, because it did matter me that. Yeah, yeah, I am great. When the CAP and Ray. Okaypen red's brilliant. It was so nice. Yeah, you can see like ten minutes in front of you. We had no idea what I was like, tend me, it doesn't sound long, but when you've dove in a place with less than meter visibility, ten meters it's one. Is like everything. It's like having twenty twenty vision, isn't that's what it's like. Yeah, it's. It was really fun. But yeah, back to your question about what how came over my experience, I was dead nervous. I don't think I really showed it and I first one. Now you are really confident. I was. I always went to you for yeah, I was kind of like, since I did did the open water, can all these guys rock? I was like, okay, yeah, that's very true. I have negative poinancy, so I just think and but yeah, like I was dead nervous when we're going there as that, oh crap, I can't see anything under war my buddy's China and I know, yeah, I panic a lot when I can't see anything. So it come to wh what kind of panic experience of your head? So, yeah, we we're into it now. So I panicked and my instructor, Rob, I do apologize in advance, rob. I will apologize for ever. I panicked on my navigation dive. It was in the advanced open water and because I couldn't see anything, we went down to the platform as six meters and I kind of slipped off the platform and fell over underwater, which I didn't know you could do, but apparently you can manage to fall under water. Yeah, I'm supposed to be a fish and I fell over underwater. Yeah, logic. And I had one instructor try and pull me up and I had another one try and pull me down, but because of his ability is so low, I couldn't see what was pulling me. So I started thrashing the vow which, by the way, do not do. It's a very bad idea, and I started thrashing about that much and I'm kind of hit rob in the face quite a few times. You, times he lost his regulator, a couple of times he lost his fin on the way trying to carry me back up to the surface. I did a control descent, though, which is good, because you ask situation. So I handle it well. Yeah, handle that perfectly well. In the midst of panicking and of using an instructor. Yeah, but, yeah, that was a really big thing for me and going back after that, back to the low visibility, was really nerve wracking. And even now, if I'm if I was to go diving there now, I'd still be really hesitant getting in. But it's kind of more just managing my breathing and kind of instead of thrashing about, I've kind of taught myself to stay still and kind of actually pay attention to what's going on around me instead of just completely kicking out. Back to what I said earlier, it's a huge mental challenge you to just because you're an environment what is completely obviously all what you're yeah, we're not built for all the okay, where you first go diving, the way I can describe it is your sat there and you're in your rocky. You know, you're back your backyard rocket. You're waiting to go to Mars for the first time. Right either. Sat there where your buddies you know, and you shoe often to space are. There's some amazing this is so cool. Mygent space in the rocket being your pull sessions, as you like, controlled. I've been in a poll before. We've all been in a pool. It was like, you don't know what I can prove and why I can I die. It's right, perfects yeah, so you're fraying off in your rocket and your Landon Mars. So you're not it's like you're on a different planet, like going to Mars. I think that's partly the faults of the kit, because I think you're on you've got so much kit on. You've got your wet Soak Finns. It's not like your mask. Then you've got your regulator in. Then you got to see the tank on the rock. I think if he is way, way, way, well, if there was a way you could slim down the almost packing of the equi you user, it was like, I know obviously they probably can't, but yeah, if just you think it was like, yeah, we breathe this kind of completely different though. Yeah, different, but like if there was a way it was just slimmer it, I think it would make a big difference on it being less cross very yeah, I think how it means you like makes you fatter. He does not used to like this body. It's like putting on a humor suit. Yeah, you know what I mean, and then having to move around in a way that you're not used to. It is so wrong, completely foreign to you. Yeah, exactly. I mean you guys don't for but for me that was so weird. I've been in the shorts. That's it. And Yeah, but died before that's like as as flexible or as like not re...

...street, if you could ever get it. Just yeah, I mean he showed me shorts and I go to all this kit and I was just I was so baffled by it. And they, they always say you remember your first breath on the war. Oh God, I remember. It was terrifying. I came face to face and, as every sharp didn't really get much choice but to be okay, I died. Yeah, but yeah, it's it's very scary when you first start. Will tell you that he's it's terrifying. Like I said, it's like a different planet. It's like you've met rob the Marsham, who trying to be up or we're not talking. I'm sorry, I didn't mean to. Okay, yeah, but here's a funny one. A right channels on the old we want to Mike Mistakes. No, I'm not. You too need to. You two need to explain it. Wasn't just me. Okay, I promise will be a section where we say how we overcome unless you died in blue the good. But one day, mean, Dan were was it an open wall? Was it a pool session? Which? Which story is this? He yeah, that was yeah, yeah, so it was all okay, right, yeah, it was it mean you when? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we want to keep and ray all this is as October. This is a this is the yeah, this was a double whammy. Then for me, isn't it going to keep away, make we are okay, but when we mean don want to keeping a just as like a bit of a free dive. We went with was it some people doing the open water? No, some people are doing their in France open that's it. And we tagged along. Didn't wait to go and just and died. I mean above and below do this thing where the go we they go there over months just, yeah, the practice or whatever. So part of it was teaching them, part of it it was just teaching us how to die. Not Stress Yeeshly, but yeah, we went there and it was amazing. We woke up at four o'clock in the morning. We were supposed to meet at five o'clock. In the morning. Someone was late, so we left it ten to six, not leaving any name. Certain Scott hopes to promote this podcast a few hours late and got Max very year. But anyway, it was still Fu dives. So we went and we went there. Eventually got there a bit late, but whatever. It was very cold that day as well. I don't free he didn't rain, but it was freezing. It was like it was near the end of winter. Yeah, like, yeah, winter, if divers, it's just unless you've got a draws you, which we don't. Yeah, it's just just don't die in it. Don't go abroad if you are. Yeah, I've in the UK. It's no, unless you want to learn. Is, if you want to learn to dive properly, you want to really get into it, learn the UK because you can dive in UK waters. You can dive anywhere in the world. But yeah, anyway, back to the story. We got there will great. We will say, though, care every film mean down. So we're going to buddy up for the day. We went down. We went down. Who was that? Ten meters a so first, wasn't it? And Yeah, like fifty. was like fifty. It's quite deep. And met me and Downlook to each other. One why aren't we breathing? Why can't we breathe? And you know, that's pretty big. Just on the descent, like we like. They were trying to get the day going because they had three dives planned plus the training for the advance. So, yeah, well, so they had a lot to do in that day. And the person we were with, we're doing their dive masters. Yeah, yeah, so it was in a dive master assessment. So they really wanted to get things going. And me and Max, we do. We really don't like check everything. And Yeah, we did. We don't piss about we really do take it, but this is life threatening situation. Yeah, but this time we became absolute idiots. We descended around five to two meters down. It wasn't to me as were dead. No, yeah, if I like it. Yeah, we would send a bit down and was like like whit brief. It turns out we kept us not causing it's at that point I regulate it. Seeing reculator h supplies you with oxygen, we was like like will be an akin. We found that both of us have done it. Yeah, each other and guard. Yeah, but we didn't even we didn't realize that's we went to the surface. So we look it. Well, I was like somewe like regulator, m have to try MACs for the dive. Yeah, and then he'Sas the same thing to me. When he gets old we realize, oh no, oh no, we're just have it. It's not box, but I'm a good day. But after that we went down. We was a really fun dive. It was really because he wasn't learning then. Yeah, so a lot of that move, all the dis we've done before then we just teaching.

So yeah, because we did have this trip plan for Egypt, for UNI. Yeah, coronavirus, but basically they were trying to get us to do rescue diver in the winter so that we could be ready for this one and get a number of ours ups of confidence. Me and Max took this dive to basically say, yeah, well, we'll get some in. Yeah, get a numbers up. But yeah, essentially that's what we want to do. We took it. We had one dive and I came up feeling a bit often. I yeah, as I don't know if I should do this next one. Here's a little tip. Not See you actually got in the water. Now I'll get yeah, I eventually got back into the water. Yeah, sorry, but I was second guess in myself. Here's a tip. If you second guess a dive, do not take the dive. Yeah, don't do it. I learned that the hard way. If you do not feel one hundred and fifty percent confident, plus another sixty percent on top of that, do not take the dive because it will ruin it, not just for you but for everyone else as well. Well, that that was what yeah, you got in the water for your second dive and you are still second guessing that. I was like, okay, we'll go dead slow. So we did. We're discerning really slow masts. Runt, can't do it. Yeah, I had a pobble with my mask and I, like the mass kept thing and and yeah, we went. I sorry, down. Can't do it. I went out down with Dolman. I was fine with by the way, like, I'm not bothered that body doesn't like isn't feeling die. I'm not going to force him to do it. No, it's someone's not comfortable. The important thing is to, you know, support them in the fact that they want to get out of the water, because otherwise it just makes that whole Boison't there's a fine there's a blood line between peer pressure and reassurance. Yeah, yeah, and it's a bit hard nail that when you dive in as well, exactly, because it's not something you should put someone. There's also that we got as well during our upper water is if, no matter how high will love, you are diving, if your body's lower than you, you go to their restrictions. Oh yeah, and it may seem annoying, but it makes the dive a hell of a lot better as well. Yeah, because you're more confident, like you'll go journey depths, like whatever they want you to. Yeah, I want to think it's a bit safer. Yeah, you'll happily dive. It's like with you, Equalis, and you struggled a lot, didn't you, when you first started. Lost like the second half of that story. Yeah, like, and Max of got out of the water and he sorted himself out and structures like. Well, you don't want to miss out on a dive. No, not really know. So you use are if we if we ho if we alry, we can, we can join. I didn't think he meant horrors and like descend, like she's something you do not want like it as though the cable snapped in an elevator. It's trying to get me down, and you guys know that my quies is terrible. I have just to eat your us like every half a meter. I have to equalize every time I breathed out exactly. He is a little tip. When you get to know Dwan, he is constantly got a cold. He I'm a really healthy person. It's until you fitness, but diary just just my immune system is really good as well. But the Times I go dive and it just really bad. Every time I've gone, I've had I've been on the end or at the start of a card hold. I've seen this man go through toper even one day. I honestly is a certain type of power what no man should house. Don't take congestions, don't take any medic yeah, like vapor rolled or our soil, soils good. I was that's fine, because it's not like it's not if it's so, if it stops, it doesn't matter. Yeah, but yeah, as you went down. Yeah, so he tries to rush it down to get us back into it, and I was just like this are like this and happening. I was my my buddies been done over, you're not doing me. So I was like stop. I I literally grabbed his leg because he was that further down, which fair enough, he's a diagnoster, is better than me. Of course you could do it. But I grabbed his leg, almost trying to pull and I I've got to go record. You do this again. Yeah, so I waited and what is felt way about it and I just took it way slower and we're a bit behving him what we call because you can't. Yeah, he's diving. The don't know Shit. To go in your own limits. One of the main rules of diving, as you always go within your limits. You never go past your limits because as you learn to die if you learn what your limits are, and it's a lot easier to stay within those once you learn what they are. So it's difficult at first to find out what they are. So Dan's obviously he has to equalize like all the time. So he just overcame that by equalize. He learned as you as you the more you dive, the more you find out about your experience based yeah, yeah, definitely. So it's like after I think I'm actually found it out bull session. Yeah, it's like I've got an equalize quite a lot. Like I think it's the second fourth session. Yeah, I think it was like some people barely equalize or eclarge once twice, but that's not me,...

...that's not my body. I have to do it bit more often, but that's fine. Yeah, everybody, everybody's different. It's like one of my the prom as I have is mask. Yeah, I'm really bad to clear on my mask because I can't keep you've got a beard. Exactly as scared of that. But even when I had but you know, cut down everything. Yeah, my mass was still an issue. Little tip anyway. If you'd learned to die but you've got a mustache, use them so you can shave it off. Use vasoline Rube. That on my mustache and I actually I had to shout and to any structure. Neil, could you rub my mustache? You broke this on me. Presents with a talk fast, the way he turned around. What. Yeah, so we all shared a bit of a sentimental moment and we I've I've had a guy robe vastly in on my face. You fall a salt in them. Dan had to stand up to someone dragging under water. O Patiently Pos A. Yeah, yeah, it's there's a lot to overcome when it comes to diving because, as we say, it's going into an alien world where you don't know. But once you overcome that, yeah, like it's odd, is it so fun? Amazing the second that you get past the whole actually learning and you get past your own head and you actually figure out like you know, I can do this. I mean my when we went to Cape and Ray, that was probably my best dive out of your out of the few that I was learning, because even though we did a few things, like we did our first deep dive. We went down to about twenty one meters and which some people doesn't much, but for our first deep dive that was pretty good, to be honest. When you go on the water, twenty meters is so much. Yeah, you people do. Like I've told someone who's not die it doesn't do any diving, and I was like yeah, we went down to like twenty years, which it's quite deep for us, and it was like twenty smiles, like from here's a car. was like yeah, you do that on a warder water. Yeah, gone down under water, like it's differently. It's differently. Yeah, so kaping ray was probably the one that I felt most comfortable doing, and it was also our last one, so it's kind of like the more fun one, and we got to take photos under water, which was brilliant. We've got some absolutely wonderful photos, right, yeah, we got to them on our instagram. Oh, that'd be good. Yeah, yeah, yes, so I was then swimming around with the fish. I actually got to cuddler sturgeon as we were leaving it. So I'm up to me and Max is a legend and caught it on camera. So I look like a bit of a widow, because I kind of look like an alien because I've got all my hood and books and everything on, but I'm couldling a sturgeon. Is An amazing picture of me and you. Yes, there is writing, this giant cross thing. Yes, and also it was from excides and the water throwing gang. Yeah, that was fun, but that's why my most enjoyable dive as well. Yeah, and but, yeah, like we said, coming over all your issues is one massive step, and pub the hottest of you will ever take a dive for isn't diving. Yes, so I don't know about you guys, but personally I lost my spot for diving recently because all I did was work dive. Like all the days we did was horrible conditions learning to dive and it wasn't fun. It's very exhaust you mean you rescue training versif rescue and advance of water? It's like it took the ptlenomy kind of we did. We did such a small space of time as well. Yeah, have a chance to kind of breathe and kind of go through it all in our own heads in a way. Don't get me wrong, part that's all of those we could have gone diving, but as yeah, and I get why they did it. They wanted it me even residence. But yeah, it was tough. It was definitely, yeah, but actually a physically very day. It's like when I first started uni, I wanted to take diving into a Korea. Yeah, I won't go into dive master, which is the step after rescue. Go to that, do teaching and things like that. Hard through I was I don't want to do this as a career anymore. I just want to do is recreational. So I've got my rescue and I think that's as far as I'm going to go in terms of levels. That's exactly the same to me. I did my afterdoing my rescue. A couple of members of my family were like, oh well, we're going to get you to you dive master and you can go and do it, and I was like, but actually I don't want to. Like I want to enjoy diving at the moment while I'm a rescue diver and I want to enjoy myself and watch the scenery and just really appreciate it before I do anything else. And maybe one day I'm will doing my dive master, who knows? But at the end of the day, as long as you enjoy it, yeah, doesn't really matter. Is there any type of course you've finds doing kind of like you know, for me you'll be photography, I think. I feel like that's the only able course up. You have really good at that one as...

...well when we did it underwater. Yeah, that's some wonderful photos for you. With the be any type of course for like doing like sit died it dive in. For me it would probably be the fish identification and the project of where shark specialized diving. So basically you learn to watch for a certain shark behaviors and you kind of watch them and then you literally just kind of react to how they react to you. It's very kind of personal between you and the Animal, which to me, is what I've always wanted. Like that's my main thing, is to build relationsist to the animals. Grow Mermaid, I did. I want to. I wanted to be a fish for your old China. Wanted to be a fish and now I'm a mermaid. So we're halfware that. Yeah, but yeah, so that was my main thing. So I'd say probably doing, probably doing that one. And Dan, I know you really enjoy doing reptives and things. So yeah, well, I'm further with that. You know, I don't think I want I was quite at once I got my rescue. My family or was like they didn't know anything about really biology, diving or anything. They're always like, oh, yeah, just you've got so many options for diamonds. Keep going, keep going. Want to. I'm really happy during a rescue die. But yeah, I probably the only one to do is W Jersey one. So yeah, I've the UK just yeah, because it's local. See, I don't feel like I would learn by the learning to do that. Like I said, I just want to die. Regulation is maybe in the summer. I was fine without the dry suit. To be fair, when we did all rescue I just had a wetsuit and then like like in like a short, you like an overcoat on the top of it. Yeah, and I was perfectly warm doing that. And Yeah, that really called. Remember you also didn't dive in the North Sea. Yeah, that's true. No, no, no, I mean needed dry Su for no, no, I mean just I mean I'm probably down in the see as well, but different quarries. Just in quarries. And Yeah, yeah, just so I can die locally and it gives me a lot longer. There is almost season it died. Yeah, it's nice places around like, like I said, I've been stone a cove. That was great. So, of course quite busy, though. So you have to go in early time. The nails on to us is probably a acre, a acres. We haven't been. So we've been told. Yeah, we sold just going to we are going to go blue lagoon. We'll probably going to gets a bit Warre that when Blue Loogon clar so I think it'll really yeah, little amazing, because that would be great for you, because they've got like world or two plane and wreck. I think. Yeah, I saw that, like how just did not dirty, but like the Auby blue. I was like, I can't see any one of my fondest memories of bulagoons when Neil took me and you all that rope died. Yes, so basically mean channel of buddies and he was out instructor. He took us down and we had to held a rouge because we could at see, and he would drag US along this rope as we will just swim around just to enjoy it. I don't know, there was nothing really to it. Will just get to it. It's just getting used to it and everything. But I have this memory of a little nymph or some type of aquatic itself swim past my eyes and then vanish, yeah, into the midst of the Green. And I looked at China and she looks at me and we just saw just put our up one armor. Yeah, we were like so confused and we like really close to each other because obviously you can't see, yeah, anythings. So we were like really close and then we both just got really confused and we came up to the surface and we like did you see that race? We really think it was from there hound. It was the only cool thing. Yeah, all we could see because it was literally right in front of yeah, it's like a senti met or two away from yes, what about? What about our rescue diving course, though? That was so fort's a hectic day. It was her today, but you know what, I thought it was a lot of fun. I think my favorite thing was literally walking in and and we did surface skills. So basically none of us are going us like, none of us will in the water. We were all dry, but we were in our wetsuits ready to go in the water. Yeah, and like the instructors were like getting readier than they were like right, so who's going to go in and pretend to be the victim? And I just stood there and literally like everyone was jumping in. Then I was like well, I'm still dry, and they were like well, gone then, and I literally remember just jumping off this black form and just literally feet first straight in the water, popping up and going, oh, that's a bit reason, about nine o'clock in the morning. But like when a number when we talked about back when Diane and me we went down with our stock. was on the same day. I when I said I can't do the dive anymore because I was getting a bit cold and when I got out, when down got out, he saw me in my clothes because I've dried off and I was shaking, I was vibrating, it was that bad, and so I had to wear my coat as well as his coat just to warm all, almost like the onst Pypotonia, which is another thing not be really careful for when diving. Exactly, you don't get too cold, specially in the UK. Yeah, because you don't feel it when you're underwater, but once you out is second your out and like the air hits you. And Yeah, because when you're in water the environment is almost the same, whereas when you're in the air, obviously it changes so quickly. So won't you've been in the water and then you get out and you have to like you literally have to like cover yourself in...

...layers because you get so cold. Like I remember literally using my towel as a blanket. I use other people cells. I think I saw your towel. Yeah, and I was literally just like this little hobbled up old lady person just covered in towels. Yeah, I went suit. I read by hills grandma. Yeah, it's just them, but yeah, anyway, and that took a huge shot my confidence when it came to dive in and a few days after we had our rescue course. But, as Dan will fully recall, when we met to do that, I I was, and I quote, vibing really hard because the night before I went to go to a concert with a few of my friends to go and see Dragon Force, one of my favorite bands. You have too power metal. Listen to Dragon Force. Probably are another song for the fire and flames, but listen to a more end off. But I was so giddy and so excited and so full of energy. Dan then got Giddy, excitable energy, just really dreams, literally bouncing off each other. Yeah, and China was just in the middle. I was just in the middle. Literally, I remember going to the rescue diving and I was sat in between the two of them and on the way there they were just non stop, at it, at it, at it, talking, going absolutely crazy, and then on the way back they both fell asleep because of how much they've been hiding. We just got this video of just like me sat in the middle and it's just there but asleep, and Dan's like snoring and longer around, and then Max just kind of looks like he's half coma toast. And yeah, absolutely crazy all day and then, because of how crazy they were going and how excited they were, they just crashed. It was like a toddler on e numbers. It was absolutely hilarious. Odds total on all the blue skills. Yeah, that's gone. I don't think I would have got through that though. Yeah, yeah, it was quite good rescue divers big regress. You're in charge of not only yourself, like it's it's already being in charge of yourself, like yeah, it's only me, but to be in charge of someone else when they're in a reasonable situation was really daunting. From God, I felt so much confident. Yeah, probably boost ourselves up, yeah, but very much a sense of responsibility. You get and it's like bright, I can do this, I have to do this, and it's almost like a different mindset. You kind of your brain kind of goes bright, this person's in trouble, I need to be there for this person, and it's like all sense of rational like rationality just jumps into your brain and you just you act and you know exactly what you've got to do. But while you're learning to do that, you don't have that so it's really difficult to learn how to apply it, I know. But we also took a little to administration course. Yes, and one of the things that got me to do was set up at Oh two tapeline folded. Yeah, we'd be tied it as well. It took him can four and a half minutes. Yeah, that was still the five Caitlyn beat Kaitlyn beat me. Yeah, like and look like two minutes. Yeah, show. But yeah, anyway, just going for all that. It's hell at times. It's not really longing to sugar coote if you learning to dive can be hell, especially in the UK, emotionally as emotionally physically, is daunting. But if you stick to it and you keep on pushing yourself, it will be one of the best things in your life to ever learn how to do. We're not saying you have to get to rescue. I know you stay what to feel like comfortable. We do. Yeah, like for us. That definitely for me. That's where I felt the most confident. Were you, you know, if you're a new diver, you feel amazing open world. I haven't brilliant. Yeah, do what you can. Go as far as you can't as you are. Yeah, I mean we are so lucky that we just wanted to do her in biology. Yeah, I and every feeling to do it as part of the course as well. Like, yeah, modules dive. I didn't find much of other university is what took a dive in cost as wide curricular. Yeah, while with this it was all in like it wasn't a proper module. It wasn't actually you have to take. There's as like an external group. I did it, but they did it alongside university. So it almost felt it was a module in a sense that it you went to a practical session, so you went to almost lectures. You only went to a few of them, so it was a lot less than an actual lecture. And then you had assignments. So we had to do an essay and a dive plan. Those were our assignments. So it wasn't even anything that's like major, but it is just so that we covered the university kind of module criteria. But the fact that we got to include it and we got credit for our university course for it was I know that was the deciding factor for me, was that I did want to do this diving because I want to go diving with sharks and like to be with a shop. You kind of have to know how to dive, so I didn't really have a choice. Definitely credit to university poll for that one. Yeah, and a Bo everyone was in Ali,...

...not you, just the whole crew, able and blow, but the cast of professors and characters we had. Yeah, it was so supportive and it was just so uplifting. When you have the kind of bad moments where you like, I really can't do this, I know for me I had a lot of those. So like I'd be like, Oh, I can't do this and and Magnus would be still there and he'd be like are shut up, you got it. And Yeah, like it's just little perky bits that kind of just parke you back up. No one ever pushed you, no one ever told you you doing it wrong or you doing it they are to exist way, wrong way. There's set things you do have to do, but you can overcome it. So equalizing, you'd equalize in different ways. So dam does it all the time. I do it quite often. I do it more than Max, but I don't do it to the same level that Dan does. Yeah, it's like there's IT's true, body the two ways you got taught is what Dan does, where you're basically you block, you know, is like lace, and you blow, don't you? We need your or you put you you put your tongue to you, you know, for your mouth, and you swallow. Yeah, it. It's also very painful. Yeah, don't first couple of times you do it. It's getting used to it, and then when you do your first couple of dives, you kind of forget to do it and then you're like, oh, hang on, I need to go back up and equalize because this actually kind of hurts. Yeah, it does hurt. You have to go back up straight away, which is one of the things that you do get used to as you go diving. It's one of those where you kind of again, you know, you what your body reacts to and you know how often to equalize. It's like our poor friend Juliet. Yeah, Juliet had a real trouble with each she has sure trouble would be equalize into the point it really hurt ears and it just it took her after diving. Yeah, it's not been going and this it's not really her fault. Her body reacted in a different way to ours. Yeah, it's like my e is when I first started. My ears just her a lot, but I just kept equalized and I kept girls like you to begin with, d yeah, let's keep Equalis Kety, because and now I'm fine. Now I'm like, Oh, it's going yeah. See, my ways were fine and I never really had a problem with equalizing because when I did my first dive in the aquarium was a six meter pool. When we did our training, they taught us to equalize at every meter. So I'd kind of got used to equalizing at different points and to go like actually into the pool and do it and then to go into my open water and do it. I kind of had that money set where I need to equalize. And then obviously, as we did our deep dive, like I said, I think I stopped equalizing at our deep dive about I think I stopped equalizing it like what I think it was about sixteen meters was the last time I equalized, because from there on my body just got used to it. It was fine. Yeah. So so you really do work your own way around the techniques. As long as you learn the basic technique and then you figure out what works for you. You can kind of apply the technique for your body and it's a whole easier once you do that. We dive in. A lot of it is. Yeah, you go for the basic guidelines, you learn how things work, you learn all this and on the signs behind it, but then you refine it and reinforce it, fine tune it with the way you feel the most comeful of doing it. Yeah, like the thing, it's very personal and if there's definitely a optic to dive in, it's learned how you should equalize. Yeah, yeah, like there's obviously stuff like thin kicks and cycles, but the different now, yeah, they want utilize and it's probably equalizers. On me one that I say you have to fit with your body. So for me I just literally breathe out my nose gently in my ears pop, whereas I know our instructor share and she had to wiggle a jaw like yours and do everything, and she had to do that quite a lot. Yeah, so it really does just depend on which works easier for you. It doesn't really matter. You don't get assessed on you know what method you use. It's more whether you can do it or not. So even if you use like a really obscure method, as long as it works and it doesn't really matter. Yeah, what would you say? Your most favorite dive is what you've done. That's a hard one for you. It's quite hard. How that is a question I do have for you. Oh God, that's foods are quite am I'm gonna go ask. Yeah, yeah, the whole day, the hold day. It is tough. Of the dive it was. I really love that. They're like just everything about I love learning it. I loved how confident I fell after it. Just just over them about it. I felt like I could really die and it was so much fun. Look on all the Diet other dives I've been learning or you know, stuff happened in you and it's kind of thrown me off and yeah, you know, but I think for that one just everything went really well that that was probably my favorite after do. Despite the lack of visibility, it was still fun die for me. What about you, China, because I know you're probably going to see you acquiring die. You know we however, I'm going to probably strict him in this. Oh No, I can't say you requiring we dive just because you sound with fish, because it doesn't count to you in a tank. Right, okay, has to be open has to be an open water I'm going with my open water one and would probably say Cape and Ray,...

...which was our ninth dive. I do believe that was our advance. So we did our photography and our wreck diving then, and so the reason that one with my favorite was purely because that was towards the end of where I finally started to realize I could do things and when I reached the point of you know, I'm going to go in, I'm going to do this. By that point I figured out a lot of what works for me. So that was really my first dive where I was able to kind of relax and I didn't really have to. I wasn't really stressed at all and it was a whole lot easier for me because I was like I got to swim with a school of fish. Same as Max said, all I've ever wanted to do is be a fish. So the fact that I had a school of fish following me and they were like swimming in and out with me and like it was it was amazing. So that one would probably definitely be my favorite all of them. That was a really good dive. Definitely. I was submit. I feel like I'm the same channer in this one. Yeah, and my advance of water during cap and right, because for me and you wear the body's flower were that one was that one of my favorite dives was either the deep dive, which is twenty one meters. Oh yeah, that's again not deep, but when you in the water for the first time, it is deep because, as because what it was, it's a going straight down. It was slight, like a like a gentleman brow. Yeah, imagine kind of like how ball is, and you just saw a hug, like a wall of the ball as you go on down. That was definitely the easiest descent I found. Yeah, definitely, it was easy for my class. Oh Yeah, a little little bit of Max Tribute here. My favorite fresh water fish of all time are sturgeons. Here we go. I love sturgeon so much because the so prehistoric and bony and are they're amazing. People like Daniel Fish and I love it, and also I love how the little nose sticks up. Yeah, it's pretty cute, but yeah, anyway, it stige is amazing and as we went down there was this huge white sturgeon, really big. Yeah, and it was the biggest one in the quarry and I looked it and I like I somehow managed to do the pain screen in face underwater like you doing. Yeah, and it shouldn't be like because I was swimming just above and behind him and he kind of like turned around and I saw this is like white sturgeon swim off and I was like he's just seem like his first proper sturgion and literally he would like I don't know how to explain how someone's that excited on the water, but he was literally like vibrating. It's always and he was pointing and, as I say my old quote, I m vibe in really hard when I saw that white sturgeon, but also the photography one. Yeah, I love underwater photography and one of the things we did when we went down there was we all sat on the bottom and he struck to pull out a bag of frozen peas. Yeah, I don't know of a sound of this trout everywhere just swimming around his heels peas. We got to feed them. Definitely that was really good and I looked down with my camera and I just see I's. Unfortunately it's a terrible picture because I just missed timed it and amateur photography. Okay, you get that, I'll get there. But this big black sturgeon just swam underneath me from like, yeah, from like this dark that something was under walls, like the platform. Yeah, and I looked under and there's just like five more of these sturgeons, the baby one. Yeah, there's one of the cuts, little the little baby surgeons. But I would say that's when my most enjoyable die, because that one did not feel like a chure, it did not feel like works anything exactly. It was I can just enjoy the rescue. Dame, you were just so vibing. You did couldn't. You didn't even go to the concert, but you found my energy. Yeah, I just fell off. Your annoying with diving is if one of your like friendship group is really excited about it, it's really infectious because if you all have the same kind of interest in it. So, like my first dive I was absolutely hyperactive as anything. I was literally like a four year old age you cry. I was crying. I was so excited I was crying and it was absolutely amazing. And then obviously Dan and Max kind of like absorbed that energy and it's the same with Dan and Max and Max would have been absolutely going mental and then Dan kind of absorbed it, and it really does to be able to share that experience with your friends and that same energy is just absolutely wonderful. But yeah, like I said, the energy of if your body is not really feeling opposite, dive. I would always say try and get them trump per come up a bit. But if if just having an off day now, in an off day, yeah, try one dive, see how they go. If they don't do very well, if you didn't enjoy it, doesn't just just just talk to them, you know. Yeah, some people don't like talking about it and puble like or so you might have to take a moon private and be like what, what's all? So I get really nervous. If you were to ask me in public, like you were to ask me in front of all about unimes and everything, I would have been like why are you asking me this? But then I know that you said to me after I've after I've abuse, the instructor, Max came up to me, was out there and he was like, look, you were fine, like you just you just need to know you can do this. And Yeah, I agree. You shaated...

...that a lot more because to me it was like he actually took the time out and he didn't make me feel awkward in front of everyone. So it's really yeah, it's money, your buddy. I'd say. We've dive in. It's very much a double spot, isn't it's very much a two person or three person or etc. Etc. sector. It's you have to kill yourself, but you you also can't carrying for someone else as well. You also have to take in. Sometimes they're your life one and not they are. Yeah, it's like you know, you don't, don't see something that's coming and they see it. They can warn you before handle again, if you're running low, one are they can let you like, they can offer you. There's it's really important to build up that repertoire as it was with your body, and kind of yeah, the thing definitely talking to them, like amadication is very key, but maybe if they've got something outside of diving. Yeah, and then they just talk it out with someone, which everyone knows. Ever, it does help and if they get that off their chest, that might help them. Yeah, if they don't, okay, then they might not die, but don't leave them too because they don't. If they don't feel as long as they feel supported. That's the main thing. Exactly right. I have one last thing to ask you too. Okay, before we wrap up. Why do you enjoy diving? I'll let down inswer this one first. Everything about it, the explore in the like the marine world, I think brilliant. Tried it. Yeah, well, just got explain that. That almost alien environment for me. Yeah, it's brilliant and overcoming that fear that that I have for me is everything going into something that I should be really scared of because of who I am. Yeah, and being able to do it for me is a massive fact. If you ask why I love it. If you had to compare it to you free diving, which is better, definitely scooped eye student. Honestly, I went free like it. Will know who's when we jumped in off the water, it felt we had not time. I get. Is it because you can actually breathe into water? scubade everything I just I just prefer is so much more. God, for being as to breathe actually makes things better. You thought. But China your favorite thing of diving. Why do you enjoy it? So I think you know what's coming again. I wanted to be a fish. You're probably going to hear me said that all are we go. Yeah, and the fact that, I don't know, I've always wanted to do it and then actually to now be able to do it is the really big thing for me. So I found it like quite rewarding and really emotional because I built my entire life up on wanting to do something and wanting to reach this goal and to then complete it and actually enjoy doing it was like literally the biggest step I think I've ever had in my life so far, and it was absolutely amazing. Like I like I said, I was crying, I was laughing, I was jumping around, I couldn't contain myself. It was literally the best thing ever. You want, and I get that feeling every time I die. If you were like every time, I'm about to you like a child in a candy store. I was. I was a kid in a candy shop. I was just it was just amazing. It was you in the UNILIBRARY. Yeah, I like books. Yeah, yeah, so what about you? I know, I I know what I know. I think I know what's coming, but oh, yeah, don't. I feel like they need to know. I think you could tell me what you think is coming. See how wrong you are. I'd say my favorite thing scommade. Why I enjoy so much. It's similar to Dan. I love to explore the unknown. Like we were saying. We think about going in holiday where a way? Yeah, and I'm like, as long as I can run off and get lost somewhere where, I'm fine. I'm like a dog, like I just go farrel for three days, I would turn I would turn out Farrell for three weeks and after that be fine. Yeah, it's just makes it more me time. You know, go back to ugle keeper. But yeah, it's explainingly unknown and I am fascinated by the weird alien like weird. Want the weird and wonderful. I like that's a good timeline, but the weird and wonderful is one of my like, one of my favorite things growing up was obviously animals, and it was one of the things were Gott me was deep sea animals as well, like how weird and strangely are and as like the kids, was like I like clownfish, I don't like this, I like Viperfish, I like go pretty or some just like yeah, I'm that Weird Guy who likes all you always gothic fish, and it's just I love the how strange and alien everything is under the waves, no matter where you are, it is so strange and I love also, I love being scared, like Averre, and I love the generaline and me being scared and I like, like I said, one of my favorite things is horror and just the feeling of being scared and in being in...

...a place I shouldn't be being that like. I like. I guess I kind of like the danger in a way, like your thrill seeker. Yeah, I guess, suppose so. But it's also the animals as well for me. Yes, the animals, this whole new environment. You're so much to explore. Yeah, I think when I go ocean die that will be big. Yeah. Well, see you all them. So, even though we all have very different like feelings as to why we want to dive, we all share the same kind of enthusiasm for it, and I guess that's the really thing, is finding out why you want to do something. It's like anything. You've got to find what you enjoy, and with diving you really can kind of just it opens it up to absolutely anything and once you find out what you want to do, you can literally just head straight into it, which is a really good tie into the future. So, like, I mean, I know for a fact that Max and Dan were really interested in, obviously when we were doing it, taking things a lot further. But like what are your plans now for it? Guid's like now? I'm happy where I am. Yeah, honestly, heard about the expenses of it. Okay, talk about that. Yeah, so it's a very expensive spot where you were very unfortunate to actually do it at the university. Yeah, we were. Yeah, but yeah, no massive plans with it or anything. Just I'm happy to content rescue. Yes, it's where I want to be. Yeah, it's same with me. I said I did want to take a career out of it, but now I've sort of lean to a completely different area. What isn't does somebody always involve the marine world, and that is something I'm more passionate about as well. And I am, like I said, I'm really happy with where I am and doing it recrelationally for enjoyment and entertainment. Like, yeah, I would love to go and do some scientific diving stuff like that, but maybe, like that's not all that later on, maybe a little bit later on. Yeah, we'll see where I go right now. I'm full and content of where I am diving everything but you China, and so obviously I want to go diving with sharks and things. So I wouldn't really say that there's any specific course that I want to take or anything. Maybe just the project to where one just so that you know, I can say I've done it in kind of flash by little card around and me like look, I did this. Yeah, but for me it's mainly just again getting the enjoyment and like, because I am a rescue diver, I'm quite happy go with that now. So I could always like go on holiday somewhere and go diving and like I got bought Gig, I got bought my own diving slate. Yea. So just to make like little geeky notes just for me, like saw this many type of fish or this many type of fic show, and it's not like your kind of thing, but that's just some that I've always got to do and that's sure. That's that's my little my little niche is just being an absolute nerd. So I'm pretty sure that's as far as I'd go with it. Yeah, maybe a little bit more in the future when I get into more of my career path. I guess I can kind of transfer it a little bit. I also feel like for you it's a dream. contrue, it really is, like it really is, and you're probably going to hear me say that a lot. Yeah, but it really is like what I've wanted to do. So now that I am where I want to be, same as with you guys. Now I am where I want to be, it's literally just seeing where it takes me. And Yeah, it opens up so many more doors. Yeah, it really did. I never realized just how many doors it would open. Like I've always wanted to work with sharks. But, like, I'm not really bothered now if it takes me a lot longer to get there, like I'm going to enjoy all the little things I can explore first. Yeah, she's really important about the opening other doors. But thoughts on the next podcast, by the way? Yeah, yeah, it's a little steep peak of our next one. So if you did enjoy this, please stay tuned if you enjoy our incessant rambling. Yeah, like I said, we are just a group of three little university students. So just what it is. Feel a bit of fun really. Yeah, it's all just to share our passion. Really that it is. Yeah, it's just a bit fun and also it's nice to you guys as well. It's nice to keep your name out there. Yeah, it's like China has a blog at a minute and, shock horror, it is about sharks, shark snippets. You pull where you can find it. You can find it at word press. I also have it on my twitter and my linkedin. You know, if any of you are prospect, what is your twitter? Word twitter is just China Dockingston. We've all got our own science twitters. I share my blog on there. We need to do another one actually. So if you're interested in all my little shark nerdiness, then yeah, head on over there will you'll probably hear me talk about it all the time. So just there with me on that. I promise it's worth it. If you couldn't tell, she's the shark freak. Yeah, definitely is the shark freak. Imagine a shark with glasses in the library book and that's basically just me, basically China. Yeah, at lab covers, like a black pen. Yeah, just like the glass, as I can like wrest of them the nose. Yeah, it's about all I've got. The image was a librarian shark.

Yeah, how did I bring shark work? But never do. So you going to a library and imagine it's just like shells of corals. Yeah, all the little bit, like the books covered an algae and yeah, the the lever of the book could be, I don't know, maybe like dolphins skin or something like Brizoi Ries Owens, and the the papers like Kelp. I see if we do something now. I want to try writing on Kelly, and I should. I can imagine like a damn and me as like Fitch walking and the use, like you're your on fins. Start it would be quiet, yeah, and then you went down to the two little fish that absolutely run and cause havoc in my library. I would destroy your calibory. That sounds gross. So on that note, I think we'll under yeah, if you did enjoy, please stay tuned because we have so many more episodes planned. I'm afraid we don't. We have a schedule. No, will kind of. Well, so we'll put this. This is going to go on twitter. We've got an instagram page. Yeah, twitter is nature. Is at nature underschool lab and then and then the twitter. The nature there sorry, the instagram is nature lab podcast. Yeah, so we'll put it on there when we're another yeah. Yeah, you're flying about on our twitters. Our lecture is going to repost it and things I heard. You do get a chance to, you kind of just follow it around and I'm trying to get it on an University of yeah, University of whole page terms also on instagram. Mainly I'm going to use it for a bit of a photography page. Yeah. Yeah, like I said, I'm like a nature science. Yeah, like I said, I'm still an amateur, that I don't really have a proper camera yet, but that it's something I will invest in eventually. And a but, yeah, we'll definitely post his pictures of our die. Definitely. I don't has to go up. So, yeah, if you did enjoy it, please be as a follow on that because because upon its retweet. Yeah, yeah, also, I could say I really love to say a huge thank you to the Actual University of Paul. Yeah, allowing goes to have the opportunity to dive, because it's such a hard opportunity to get for some people as well. We just got it hard. We until us. Yeah, we literally had it hand fed probably I know it for a fact. I wouldn't. I would have wasn't. I would not have gone up to rescue. Oh God, no, no, when you wanted up to rescue, if I'm so glad that we got the chance to do it, and our marine biology course first year as well, first year, like that's a sure appressive thing to accomplish. Yeah, and thank you veryone, above and below as well, actually giving the time for us to teachers how to dive and everything. It was we realized would I always insane, an ovous, I know, but I had a lot to overcome. So the fact that they were kind of patient with it and just really understanding and like not judgment or anything was a really big thing that I think definitely contributed to helping me feel confident in my diving, which is greatly appreciated. Yeah, and, as we said, this is nature lab. Thank you for listening and taking the time out. You there for it really means a lot and I hope you did enjoy it. I did, I know I did, so we'll see you later. Yeah, see, I know.

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